Olof Stockhaus

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• Commented on Pumpkin Perl - Redux
  I have the same problem with the name Pumpkin Perl as 27escape, i.e. there are already a number of Perl5 distributions with batteries included with that naming scheme so it will be taken as that instead of as a new...
• Commented on Perl 7 - Final Thoughts
  Ooops, I didn't intend to open that can of worms again. At least it haven't made it's way into the perl porters mailing list thread (yet!). I guess that the only way the language would possibly be renamed is if...
• Commented on Perl 7 - Final Thoughts
  I think it would have been better to rename "Perl 5" to Perl++, Perl# or similar instead of just Perl5 if we want it to be noticed outside the perl community, but as long as it makes it mentally easier...
• Commented on Does Perl (5) have a future?
  The only way I can see Perl 5 getting a new major version is by changing it’s name. The reason for that is the existence of Perl 6 and Larry’s decision to stick to that name for the language. That...
• Commented on Perl 7
  To clarify: The mop and the signatures would not have to be there in the first release of the new major version, but the backwards compatibility breaking changes needs to be done by then....
• Commented on On the version number succeeding Perl 5
  I couldn’t login to chromatic’s blog to comment on his post about it so I’ll reply here in hope that he may read it. The version number matters because it’s a mental barrier for breaking backwards compatibility and cleaning up...
• Commented on On the version number succeeding Perl 5
  I don’t think my arguments were that compelling and I definitely wasn’t clear enough about what I meant when I listed what I thought should go into Perl7 core. What I meant was that the mop and the signatures should...
• Commented on Perl 7
  I personally think a Perl 7 in the roadmap would be a good idea, but not if it would be 5.20 in disguise. In my opinion a few major things needs to be added/changed to motivate a new Perl major...

Comment Threads

• Reini Urban commented on Pumpkin Perl - Redux

  I thought perl emphasis collaborative maintainance over the single hero. I hear "matz ruby" and I'm displeased, but it might be okay because matz is in control of the language despite a lot of competitors who change and enhance the language around.

  My proposal was "p5p perl" to emphasis the community over ricardo.
  What did he do in the last years other than waving arms and giving
  talks? helping in decision making certainly not.
  p5p did the work.
  A future pumpkin might be more technical, but still naming the
  release after him? This is the wrong messag…

• CosmicNet commented on Perl 7 - Final Thoughts

  Lets just rename it to Peril, then go on rapid release cycle like FireFox. Then we can have a new major release every couple of months, and all the huge benefits that have come with that: https://wiki.mozilla.org/RapidRelease/Calendar

  Of course, I'm joking.

  I can't help the feeling that if the effort from all these years of Perl 5/Perl 6 attrition, had been directed into Perl 6 as they naturally should have been, it would have been ready some time ago. Instead the dog chooses to keep chewing on it's own leg.

• Will commented on Pumpkin Perl - Redux

  Perl 5 should still be called "Perl". Instead, Perl 6 should get a new name. Let the newcomer sound like a silly pumpkin, not the established language.

  Renaming Perl 5 would cause confusion over the fact that all the existing Perl 5 code out there couldn't be called Perl code anymore, it would have to be called Pumpkin Perl code.

  Even though the existing Perl has not changed, we're required to call it something different? No, that's not how names are supposed to work. New names are for new things.

  Perl 6 is the new thing, *it* should get a new name.
  

• frettled.myopenid.com commented on Pumpkin Perl - Redux

  I like the reasoning, I like the idea, and I like the name.

  Most people will probably still just say "perl".

  But what is the trademark status?

  (As for Perl 6, we've already got "Rakudo Perl" and other Perl 6 dialects, so there's no need to have "Rakudo Blackfriar Perl" or something as Will appears to suggest.)

  I'm glad that the name "Onion Perl" hasn't been suggested, since that might imply that there is Only One Perl. There isn't, and in the future, we might even have another sibling in the so far fairly small Perl family of languages.

• Neil Ostrove commented on Pumpkin Perl - Redux

  It looks like most of the comments like the idea but dislike the name, mostly because its meaning isn't obvious. To give everyone a worse choice to rally against, thereby consolidating mst's choice, I hereby propose the name Acoustic Perl (analogous to acoustic guitar).