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  • Commented on Why Dart is not the language of the future
    This is a good point of view. Although I don't agree with everything you say, you are right one point: a PL should be either dynamic and untyped, or fully statically typed. In the sphere of web programming language, that...
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  • robsimmons.myopenid.com commented on Why Dart is not the language of the future

    Oliver: I don't think "a PL should be either dynamic and untyped, or fully statically typed" is the right lesson to be drawn from this. There's a lot of interesting research that has been done or is being done on languages that integrate static and dynamic type systems, going by names like "gradual typing" or "hybrid typing." This work both shows a lot of promise and is mature enough that ideas could really be incorporated into a production language.

    Here, the issue is that they add something which has superficial resemblance to this work but then, because the "type" stuff doesn't ac…

  • robsimmons.myopenid.com commented on Why Dart is not the language of the future

    Oops, that was a reply to frenchy, not Oliver.

  • Dennis commented on Why Dart is not the language of the future

    "Oh my, factories? it's like 1997 and design patterns all over again!)"

    and then

    "Via some type decoration mechanism, one could have mixed weak and strong typing..."

    You mock the use of design patterns then you recommend one - "decoration mechanism"

    Which is it - they're useful or they're not ??

  • moru0011 commented on Why Dart is not the language of the future

    This post is full of wrong assumptions and misunderstandings.

    1. Factory constructors. Construction of objects is more than a design pattern, object construction is a core element of a language. Factory methods are a great improvement over the limited “new” statement. Nothing wrong with introducing this at lang level, as it does not prevent other patterns.
    2. Concurrency model: is actor-alike. This model is also favoured by many in the Java-VM language camp. A big advantage is that Garbage Collection (a big problem for large ente…
  • Malaidas commented on Why Dart is not the language of the future

    I strongly feel you are missing the pint somewhat here.

    the primary use of dart is to bring sanity to scripting web applications, specifically those of moderate to large size and in this it achieves its aims from what I can see. Would I choose it for a desktop application, no, there are a plethora of languages better suited to this. For use in the browser though its a good choice in my opinion. Certainly better than plugins such as Java Applets or Flash etc.

    the main stopping point with creating sensible we applications is JavaScript's stupidities. Which are caused of course…

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