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  • Commented on Pumpkin Perl Breakdown
    mst, all day long I could not figure out where to stand to see things your way. Then I happened upon Dave Golden's blog post where he says: If we go all the way, and rebrand from "Perl 5" to...
  • Commented on Pumpkin Perl Breakdown
    If you believe that perl5 requires a new implementation to take us forwards: You should support this proposal because by providing the current implementation with its own name, we allow alternative implementations to also have their own name and identity...
  • Commented on Perl 7
    There's a problem here that I don't see being discussed. "Perl7" or "Perl2013" or "Perl Foo" is a fork, plain and simple. The 5.xx line will not end just because somebody decides to evolve Perl5 into something not quite compatible...
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  • LoonyPandora commented on Pumpkin Perl Breakdown

    To be clear: I think the rename is a great idea. It's a first step, and that's awesome.

    With that in mind, for this to be successful we as a community have to go all in. Doing a rename like this in a half-assed fashion will fizzle out, and end up as wasted effort in a year. We need to give it an extreme amount of energy so it gets over the tipping point and takes on a life of it's own.

    This means more than making a pretty logo, changing the version string, and saying "yay perl". It means making noise. Lots of noise. No half-assed "ironman" blogging thing that generates little…

  • lordarthas.myopenid.com commented on Pumpkin Perl Breakdown

    There are so many reasons to support this idea.
    One of those I really like is that people will be able to use search engines and find something up to date when typing "pumpkin perl": there's so many outdated stone-age perl-related material that we won't be able to get rid of that without a change like this.

    So, for this and many other reasons, it's +1.

    And willing to help where I can, of course.

  • raiph commented on Pumpkin Perl Breakdown

    I liked everything about mst's original Pumpkin post with one small exception -- the specific qualifier Pumpkin.

    In most ways it's outstandingly good. But it didn't leave me 100% satisfied.

    I've just seen someone's suggestion of Modern Perl, and I have to say I like it a lot. I checked whois, and shadowcat owns modernperl.com...

  • Christopher Cashell commented on Pumpkin Perl Breakdown

    I like it.

    The name "Pumpkin" isn't necessarily my favorite, but I'm pretty sure that's just pure personal opinion; I can't think of any real objections to it, nor can I think of a better suggestion. There's certainly nothing wrong with it.

    I do still like the idea of year-based versioning, ideally along with the name change. If you're going to do releases based on a scheduled time-table, it makes sense to match your versions to it. However, that's something that can be considered in the future.

    I'm feeling good about this change.

  • Aristotle commented on Perl 7

    Yes Jenda, these clearly look like dead projects to me. You’re talking out of your ass. As for your opinion that this supposed failure of the effort entitles you to give the people who are working on it a public “fuck you”, how about a nice big cup of shut-the-hell-up.

    Thank you.

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