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  • Commented on Pumpkin Perl - Redux
    mst: yes, I read your arguments. In a perfect world, I'd agree w/ your intentions. But I've been listening to this Perl 5 v Perl 6 mess for maybe 8 years now ? As you observed in another reply, Perl...
  • Commented on Pumpkin Perl - Redux
    27escape: your concern about RH and other stubborn OS's not picking up a new version may argue for my suggestion of dropping "Perl" and just keeping "Pumpkin". And if its positioned as a new language (albeit inheriting much from its...
  • Commented on Names and Numbers, Brand and Identity
    If its time for brand differentiation, then why not just "Pumpkin" ? w/ the Perl 5 part parenthetically referenced in pumpkin -V. Given the state of tech journalism today (techcrunch and their ilk), I've no doubt it would create quite...
  • Commented on Thread pool for a boss/worker model
    Gratuitous self promotion: Thread::Apartment provides a pooling interface, and should allow use of direct method calls to threaded objects....
  • Commented on Threads in Perl, Erlang style
    Looks familiar: Thread::Apartment Tho it was based on regular Perl ithreads, it used msg passing. But relying on Thread::Queue and esp Storable turns out to be very expensive. Some related stuff: DBIx::Threaded HTTP::Daemon::Threaded fwiw, I tested using a regular new...
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  • Matt S Trout (mst) commented on Names and Numbers, Brand and Identity

    Mike, I was the one who originally popularised 'perl5 is a velociraptor' - my YAPC::* closing keynotes summarising the state of the perl5 community are known as 'State of the Velociraptor'.

    However, I think the raptor meme belongs to the perl5+CPAN platform rather than to perl5 the language itself, so I chose not to try and force it onto the language.

  • Reini Urban commented on Pumpkin Perl - Redux

    I thought perl emphasis collaborative maintainance over the single hero. I hear "matz ruby" and I'm displeased, but it might be okay because matz is in control of the language despite a lot of competitors who change and enhance the language around.

    My proposal was "p5p perl" to emphasis the community over ricardo.
    What did he do in the last years other than waving arms and giving
    talks? helping in decision making certainly not.
    p5p did the work.
    A future pumpkin might be more technical, but still naming the
    release after him? This is the wrong messag…

  • Will commented on Pumpkin Perl - Redux

    Perl 5 should still be called "Perl". Instead, Perl 6 should get a new name. Let the newcomer sound like a silly pumpkin, not the established language.

    Renaming Perl 5 would cause confusion over the fact that all the existing Perl 5 code out there couldn't be called Perl code anymore, it would have to be called Pumpkin Perl code.

    Even though the existing Perl has not changed, we're required to call it something different? No, that's not how names are supposed to work. New names are for new things.

    Perl 6 is the new thing, *it* should get a new name.

  • commented on Pumpkin Perl - Redux

    I like the reasoning, I like the idea, and I like the name.

    Most people will probably still just say "perl".

    But what is the trademark status?

    (As for Perl 6, we've already got "Rakudo Perl" and other Perl 6 dialects, so there's no need to have "Rakudo Blackfriar Perl" or something as Will appears to suggest.)

    I'm glad that the name "Onion Perl" hasn't been suggested, since that might imply that there is Only One Perl. There isn't, and in the future, we might even have another sibling in the so far fairly small Perl family of languages.

  • Neil Ostrove commented on Pumpkin Perl - Redux

    It looks like most of the comments like the idea but dislike the name, mostly because its meaning isn't obvious. To give everyone a worse choice to rally against, thereby consolidating mst's choice, I hereby propose the name Acoustic Perl (analogous to acoustic guitar).

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