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• Posted This Week in PSC (118) to Perl Steering Council

  All three of us returned. We talked about

  • Getting a Perl 5.38.1 maint release out of the door
  • How to progress Pod format improvements (i.e. U<>)
• Posted This week in PSC (117) to Perl Steering Council

  Two of us again, here's the summary of our meeting:

  • While implementing PPC 0013, it turned out it was vague in some places, so further discussions and refinements to the PPC document are nee…
• Posted This week in PSC (116) to Perl Steering Council

  There were only two of us this week, and the list is still a bit quiet.

  The main topic was stalled PPC work: we have a few PPCs that have been approved and are in the “Implementing” state, but still waiting for an implementor. We’ll send a separate email asking for volunteers on thos…

• Posted This week in PSC (115) to Perl Steering Council

  This week, we discussed several topics:

  • collecting bugfixes to put in a 5.38.1 maintenance release
  • Module::CoreList automated releases, and how we might get them created — what PAUSE user, etc…
  • once the PPC for
• Posted This week in PSC (114) to Perl Steering Council

  This week, we talked about:

  • the recent quietness of the perl5-porters list
  • PPC 0013 and the use of a lexical featur…
• Posted This week in PSC (113) to Perl Steering Council

  The three of us met today, and we:

  • updated the status of stalled PPCs (after discussion with the proposers)
  • assigned a number (0023) to the map my $x { } PPC
  • discussed the evaluation order issue related to PPC 0021 (optional chaining…
• Posted This week in PSC (112) to Perl Steering Council

  This week, for its first meeting, the new PSC:

  • discussed the nature of typing systems for Perl and what properties we find desirable vs not
  • worked out a release schedule for the next few months of devel releases
  • reviewed the PPC Tracker document. A few are now done…
• Posted This week in PSC (111) to Perl Steering Council

  Today was PSC 111 — what happened to 110 you ask? Well, it was a bit of a non-meeting a few weeks ago. Nothing to say about it, sorry!

  This week, we:

  • Said hello to Graham and goodbye to Rik
  • We did a bunch of handover, making sure we set up a new Zoom meeting and …
• Posted This Week in PSC (109) to Perl Steering Council

  Today’s PSC call was another pretty short one.

  • We agreed on the change HTTP::Tiny, our last blocker, and hope to have RC1 tomorrow.
  • There are a few minor notes on the RC0 status on p5p, which need addressing. Nothing major.
  • We…
• Posted This week in PSC (108) to Perl Steering Council

  After skipping last week, Rik and BooK met today and we:

  • happily confirmed there are no release blockers left
  • looked at HTTP::Tiny, which might really be one last blocker
  • reviewed the PPC list (see ="https://www.nntp.perl.org/group/perl.perl5.porters/2023/05/…
• Posted This week in PSC (107) to Perl Steering Council
  (21044), one more should be closable once a perldelta PR is merged (20384), one more remains (21073)
  • We discussed the funding of some Perl events (like PTS) and how their sponsorship works now, and Philippe wondered w…
• Posted This week in PSC (106) to Perl Steering Council

  Porters,

  After a meeting around an actual physical table at the Perl Toolchain Summit last week, the three of us were back to our regular video calls. The call was longer than usual, as we delved into the code of CPAN.pm.

• Posted This Week in PSC (105) to Perl Steering Council

  Today, the PSC met up … in person! We’re all in Lyon for the Perl Toolchain Summit.

  

  Meantime, although we had a ver…

• Posted This week in PSC (104) to Perl Steering Council

  All three of us met, having skipped last week.

  There wasn’t much to talk about because code freeze ahead of 5.38 is in effect, so there isn’t much going on.

  • We talked further about the upcoming deprecations scheduled for 5.38.0 (smartmatch, tick-as-package-sepa…

• Posted This week in PSC (103) to Perl Steering Council

  Paul, Philippe, and Ricardo had our mostly-weekly Zoom call today.

  We began by discussing last week, when Pete K from TPRF joined us and we talked about what TPRF could do to help p5p. (Main topics then, which didn’t get any firm action items, were support for critical infrastructur…

• Posted This week in PSC (102) to Perl Steering Council

  Topics discussed:

  • Bug reporting by email: we commit to nothing as an organisation. Some would-be submitters of issues don’t want to use GitHub. They can just send an email to perl5-porters and hope that some helpful soul will copy-paste to GitHub. We encourage the convention…
• Posted This week in PSC (101) to Perl Steering Council

  Porters,

  We had an abbreviated PSC call today, largely due to an unexpected delay. …

• Posted This week in PSC (100) to Perl Steering Council

  All three of us met, and were joined by Pete Krawczyk who first wanted to discuss some TPRF-related issues.

  Following on from this we discussed:

  • Zefram’s request to back out the strict-vs-VERSION changes. There’s some merit here, he sent a PR to undo the whole …

• Posted This week in PSC (099) to Perl Steering Council

  After missing last week, all three of us attended.

  • Recapped the missing weeks from absences
  • Smartmatch deprecation seems to be causing some BBC failures due to new warnings, but that’s to be expected; Philippe to submit patches upstream
  • Refined the questions s…
• Posted This Week in PSC (098) to Perl Steering Council

  Paul and Philippe attended (Rik is still enjoying Australia).

  We discussed:

  • feature-class: there’s a soon-to-be-merged PR to fix most memory leaks https://github.com/Perl/perl5/pull/20809
  • n-at-a-time map/grep: HAARG should repl…
• Posted This week in PSC (097) to Perl Steering Council

  PSC met today, just Paul and Philippe.

  We discussed:

  • inclusion of TLS libraries in the core: we think w…
• Posted This Week in PSC (096) to Perl Steering Council

  Just Paul and Philippe this week.

  • Smartmatch deprecation continues — just one more distribution left now (Test-Simple).
  • RFC process needs a new name and ID allocation scheme. We will continue discussing ideas and post when we have something presentable.
• Posted This Week in PSC (095) to Perl Steering Council

  A busy meeting today, we talked about quite a few things:

  • Smartmatch deprecation continues. Some upstream PRs have been raised, awaiting CPAN releases
  • Refaliasing might be able to be deëxperimentalized if we add a warning on the currently-failing closure capture cases
  …
• Posted This Week in PSC (094) to Perl Steering Council

  PSC met today, all three of us attended.

  We discussed:

  • HAARG’s map my $x RFC. Overall thoughts are good, with one or two minor questions we’ll add as comments.
  • Whether the additions to join()
• Posted This Week in PSC (093) to Perl Steering Council

  Paul, Philippe, and Rik had our regular call today to talk about perl5.

  We put together some notes (at long last) for The Perl Foundation to use in their annual prospectus.

  We talked about Math-Complex, and moving its issues into Perl5 GitHub. (A nice bit of work for anybody to do,…

• Posted This Week in PSC (092) to Perl Steering Council

  Having been off for two weeks, we spent a while just catching up with the state of the world. Not much of note to report this week.

  • We decided we should write up a list of “what’s expected in 5.38” to ensure we’re on track
  • We briefly chatted about
• Posted This Week in PSC (091) to Perl Steering Council
  • Paul suggested he might find time to begin implementing qt{} strings soon
  • HTTPS support in core still needs a p…
• Posted This Week in PSC (090) to Perl Steering Council

  Just Paul and Rik, Philippe could not join us today.

  • We talked about the difficulty of taking work that the author thinks is good, and may commit, but on which no significant feedback has been received. Rik will post more about this a bit later.
  • We ran through the RFC tracke…
• Posted This Week in PSC (089) to Perl Steering Council

  Back to the full three of us. Not much needed looking at this week.

  • Posted the smartmatch deprecation message to p5p@; will post it to blogs etc.. after a round of responses.
  • Sent off a reminder that we're looking for help or a project manager on getting SSL support out of the bo…
• Posted This Week in PSC (088) to Perl Steering Council

  A smaller-than-usual meeting because of the US Holiday; only Paul and Philippe today.

  • We remembered we still need to write the announcement for deprecating smartmatch
  • We need to resync with Neil about how "SSL in Core" investigations are going
  • Reviewed RFCs and found a shortl…

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