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Posted This week in PSC (141) | 2024-03-21 to Perl Steering Council
This week, we:
- Talked about some ideas for discussion at the upcoming PTS
- Discussed the current blocked state of bleadperl following the 5.39.9 release and how to unblock it
- Finished reviewing the release blocker bugs
- Discussed how MetaCPAN should better ha…
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Posted PSC #140 2024-03-14 to Perl Steering Council
This week, we discussed:
- Further look down open bugs to tag some as being release-blocker
- Do we want to revert PR21915? - discussed in its own email thread
- Thought of a couple of issues to discuss with the wider group at the upcoming PTS
- How to handle “im…
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Posted This Week in PSC (139) to Perl Steering Council
Just Paul and Philippe this week:
- Paul volunteers to do the 5.39.9 release. We still need people for .10 and 5.40. The .10 release will be timed around PTS - so maybe we could do something “live” at the summit?
- Mailing list was otherwise quiet so there weren̵…
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Posted This Week in PSC (138) to Perl Steering Council
Back to the usual three of us
Further chats on allowing a subsequent
use VERSION
of the same value as is already prevailingWe continued going through the bug list to tag release blockers
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Posted This Week in PSC (137) | 2024-02-22 to Perl Steering Council
Paul was away this week.
- we talked about the hiccups that PAUSE seems to have been through
- we discussed further changes to the use VERSION behaviour (warnings)
- and we started going through the bug list to tag release blockers
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Posted PSC #136 2024-02-15 to Perl Steering Council
- draft tests+docs received from Martijn Lievaart (“M4”) for a logical xor (^^) operator
- the responses saying no to adding Data::Printer in core that it doesn’t seem like it would b…
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Posted This Week in PSC (135) | 2024-02-08 to Perl Steering Council
This week, the three of us:
- noted that
use VERSION
restrictions have had mostly positive responses - thought that
Data::Printer
can’t go in core as-is, but there’s a use case for a debugging helper, …
- noted that
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Posted This Week in PSC (134) | 2024-01-25 to Perl Steering Council
All three of us returned.
We only had one issue to discuss, the pressing matter of how to handle lexical unimports,
builtin
version bundles, the integration withuse VERSION
, and various related topics.It’s co…
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Posted This Week in PSC (133) | 2024-01-25 to Perl Steering Council
Just me and Graham this week.
builtin::nan
needs better documentation on the kind of NaN it provides.- We discussed lots about
builtin
and lexical imports, and how to handle a few odd cornercases. - Perl…
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Posted This week in PSC (132) | 2024-01-18 to Perl Steering Council
We discussed
- lwn.net writes a lot about Python. Should we let them know “Hey Perl still exists, here’s what we’re doing” too?
- Reviewed a draft of some slides for the “Updates from the PSC” FOSDEM talk
- Discussed some thoughts around getting use VERSION to…
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Posted This Week in PSC (131) | 2024-01-12 to Perl Steering Council
We discussed
- Some issues with PPCs in flight - meta (0022), qt strings (0019). More mails or PRs may be inbound
- A gap in the PPC process overall; it seems unclear how to edit and amend accepted documents to resolve questions that come up during implementing
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Posted This Week in PSC (130) | 2024-01-04 to Perl Steering Council
Happy New Year!
This week, we discussed some recent mailing-list threads:
meta
experiments continue. They should probably provoke some kind of runtime warning about being experimental, but exact details need discussion- Ovid requests t…
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Posted This Week in PSC (129) | 2023-12-21 to Perl Steering Council
We
- Arranged for a representative from TPRF to join us in January to discuss roadmaps
- Started discussing what might turn up in the PSC talk at FOSDEM
We’re skipping next week due to Christmas, so next meeting should be on 2024-01-04
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Posted This Week in PSC (128) | 2023-12-14 to Perl Steering Council
This week, Graham was on holidays, so Paul and Philippe:
- reviewed new mailing list threads. Just one - a rethink of signatures.
- submitted a talk proposal to the Perl dev room at FOSDEM
- continued to discuss the complexities of moving past the number ‘5’ for the m…
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Posted This Week in PSC (127) | 2023-12-07 to Perl Steering Council
This week we:
- Worked out final resolving actions for security issues.
- Discussed recent mailing-list posts about making
method
non-public by default. This probably won’t work but we could open a PPC discussion on="prettyprint…
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Posted This week in PSC (126) | 2023-11-30 to Perl Steering Council
Three Perl releases have been published this past week, containing patches for security issues CVE-2023-47038 and CVE-2023-47039. This kept us busy for the past few weeks (explaining the somewhat thinner recent updates).
- Paul will publish a post-mortem on the recent releases, looking…
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Posted This week in PSC (125) | 2023-11-23 to Perl Steering Council
The PSC met today. In summary:
- Paul’s TPRF grant was accepted, he plans to spend some of that time to work on some PPCs first (
qt
strings, overload) - FOSDEM Perl Devroom CfP: none of us are planning to attend in person, but if someone el…
- Paul’s TPRF grant was accepted, he plans to spend some of that time to work on some PPCs first (
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Posted This Week in PSC (124) | 2023-11-16 to Perl Steering Council
This week we:
- Reviewed some recent email threads:
- Returning values from
require
multiple times - seems not useful as compared to usingdo FILE
or the newload_module
builtin
- Returning values from
- Reviewed some recent email threads:
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Posted This week in PSC (123) | 2023-11-09 to Perl Steering Council
We skipped the meeting last week (2023-11-02). This week was a quiet week too, so we don’t have much to report.
We talked a bit about the PPCs currently being implemented. PPCs 14 (English names) and
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Posted This week in PSC (122) | 2023-10-26 to Perl Steering Council
This week we discussed:
- Release process needs better docs, maybe some more automation.
- "inward goto" has been deprecated since 5.12. We have set an end date for it and will announce in 5.40 that we'll remove it in 5.42.
- Our call for a project manager to get SSL into…
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Posted This Week in PSC (121) | 2023-10-19 to Perl Steering Council
Reviewed PR#21532 (Module loading function)
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Posted This week in PSC (120) | 2023-10-12 to Perl Steering Council
This week we discussed the following topics:
- load_module has a PR in progress; needs continued nudging on a few last issues so we can move forward and merge it
- Pod “U<..>” for underline has better docs; again that could possibly be merged now if all are happy…
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Posted This week in PSC (119) | 2023-10-05 to Perl Steering Council
This week we discussed the following topics:
Module::CoreList
is still somewhat awkward and manual to update around releases. We need better instructions and possibly some automation around the simpler- Pod’s new
U&…
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Posted This Week in PSC (118) | 2023-09-28 to Perl Steering Council
All three of us returned. We talked about
- Getting a Perl 5.38.1 maint release out of the door
- How to progress Pod format improvements (i.e.
U<>
)
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Posted This week in PSC (117) | 2023-09-21 to Perl Steering Council
Two of us again, here's the summary of our meeting:
- While implementing PPC 0013, it turned out it was vague in some places, so further discussions and refinements to the PPC document are nee…
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Posted This week in PSC (116) | 2023-09-14 to Perl Steering Council
There were only two of us this week, and the list is still a bit quiet.
The main topic was stalled PPC work: we have a few PPCs that have been approved and are in the “Implementing” state, but still waiting for an implementor. We’ll send a separate email asking for volunteers on thos…
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Posted This week in PSC (115) | 2023-09-07 to Perl Steering Council
This week, we discussed several topics:
- collecting bugfixes to put in a 5.38.1 maintenance release
Module::CoreList
automated releases, and how we might get them created — what PAUSE user, etc…- once the PPC for
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Posted This week in PSC (114) | 2023-08-31 to Perl Steering Council
This week, we talked about:
- the recent quietness of the perl5-porters list
- PPC 0013 and the use of a lexical featur…
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Posted This week in PSC (113) | 2023-08-24 to Perl Steering Council
The three of us met today, and we:
- updated the status of stalled PPCs (after discussion with the proposers)
- assigned a number (0023) to the
map my $x { }
PPC - discussed the evaluation order issue related to PPC 0021 (optional chaining…
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Posted This week in PSC (112) | 2023-08-17 to Perl Steering Council
This week, for its first meeting, the new PSC:
- discussed the nature of typing systems for Perl and what properties we find desirable vs not
- worked out a release schedule for the next few months of devel releases
- reviewed the PPC Tracker document. A few are now done…
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