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  • john napiorkowski commented on Understanding Behavior Driven Development

    Another possible advantage to the BDD style is that the human readable tests cases, although seem contrived, can help people down the road understand why a given test was written. Very often I inherit projects with 5-7 year old code test suites and usually its very, very hard to figure out what a given test is for, and what story it meant to fix.

  • Aristotle commented on Test::More has lots of crazy new development that's breaking my modules
    CPAN Testers isn’t about assigning blame. It’s about finding bugs.

    But the PASS/FAIL stats get shown as PASS/FAIL in Business::ISBN, not in Test::More. You could still make a strained argument that they do belong to Business::ISBN, but they clearly aren’t relevant to anyone except those who are using that TRIAL version of Test::More, which is a tiny audience. To the vastly larger group of other CPAN users this is confounding information.

    So your best argument amounts to the toolchain module maintainer’s convenience in finding bugs coming before every…

  • MidLifeXis commented on Test::More has lots of crazy new development that's breaking my modules

    If the tester is not testing Test::More, why is it using a trial version of Test::More? Shouldn't the cpantester node be using the production version of everything that is not actively under test?

    Just my $0.02.

  • Robert Rothenberg commented on Test::More has lots of crazy new development that's breaking my modules

    As a module author, I also don't want to see fails for spurious reasons for my modules.

    I think the only time I've used that as a reason to not use a module was when that module hadn't been updated in several years, and consistently fails on recent versions of Perl.

    I believe that CPAN Testers has a way that you can mark specific tests as not-applying just for…

  • Ether commented on Test::More has lots of crazy new development that's breaking my modules

    > I don't think CPAN Testers is doing the right thing by using broken Test::More's that aren't available for normal installations.

    I strongly disagree. What if these Test::More changes *were* production ready? Receiving these failing reports, before Test::More sees a stable release, would be vital to identifying issues with your code, so you have a chance to fix it before that stable release and everyone is affected. The smokers can't know whether this trial is nearing production readiness or not.

    CPAN test reports are my best indicator of whether my code is working for eve…

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