markov
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Commented on No One Is Immune to Abuse
I do second you, Aristotle. I left the Perl Community (not Perl) because of SawyerX's activities. He forced our conference organization to use Codes of Conduct (CoC) rules which are illegal in Europe, under the threat of Booking withdrawing its...
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Commented on Open Letter to the Perl Foundation Board
Certainly BooK. There is nothing wrong with explicitly state that you want everyone to be pleasant. As organizers of a big event, you are also required (by law) to solve problems which emerge: being explicit on such procedure is also...
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Commented on Open Letter to the Perl Foundation Board
I was co-organizer of YAPC Europe 2020. As such, I had very long discussions with mainly SawyerX because he (as contact person for main sponsor Booking.com) forced the American Code of Conduct on our conference. He did not (want to)...
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Commented on Perl dying? Well now I don't care
Dimitry, I have encountered many comparable problems as you described. For instance, I have attempted to get markup like =method =sub =example and inheritance information into plain POD, to help produce nicer HTML already 20 years ago. Many mechanisms block...
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Posted Dutch Perl Workshop, July 7th to markov
It is me, or is it internet? When you are organizing events, people respond later and later every year. You buy a book on internet, and it is delivered next day. The washing machine dies, but you do not have to leave the house anymore. But meeting organizers can not deliver in a single…
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The Mighty Buzzard commented on
No One Is Immune to Abuse
You do you, Aristotle. I've never worked a job a day in my life where the boss, much less plenty of the employees, wasn't an asshole. And yet I've never once quit a job because I didn't like someone. I'm not there to like or be liked, I'm there to get a job done. If I receive something in return for the work that I value enough, I continue working; if not, I don't.
That's where a lot of people read me wrong. It's not that I hate their breathing guts. It's that I don't care about them enough to give a damn if they take my complete indifference to their entire existence except as it ap…
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Aristotle commented on
No One Is Immune to Abuse
Hey, the guy who doesn’t care is back to reaffirm his not caring. Welcome back. 🙂 Of course I’ma do me. Who else?
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The Mighty Buzzard commented on
No One Is Immune to Abuse
Beats me. You seem to be concerned about people liking you, so it could be anybody.
Most of the overly fragile people are not in reality overly fragile anyway. They simply hate you and will use the weapon you're giving them every time you fail to slap them down for doing it to others against you.
The choice here is between demanding they act like a grownup who leaves his non-work feelings at home or letting them run everyone who gets things done off. There is not a middle ground, only an inevitable decline if you allow it.
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Diab Jerius commented on
No One Is Immune to Abuse
Lots of stereotypes and assumptions being thrown around here, as well as some pretty grand generalizations.
A community is defined by a set of common values and yes, a code of conduct of acceptable behavior. That's been part of human culture since before recorded history.
Every community eventually sets down rules for what is acceptable and what isn't, otherwise it falls apart and is no longer a community.
Some people don't like rules which limit how they behave towards others. Fine. But their behavior is not always welcomed by others in the community, and if the comm…
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Aristotle commented on
No One Is Immune to Abuse
You seem to be concerned about people liking you, so it could be anybody.
Buzzard, Buzzard. If you go around accusing people of not knowing the difference between empathy and sympathy, maybe you should not be making the same mistake. 🙂
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