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• Posted This week in PSC (168) | 2024-11-15 to Perl Steering Council

  Another extended meeting, which everyone attended. Here’s a summary:

  • We want to get actual implementation of TLS in core underway. Paul volunteered for some of it. We’ll email our plan to p5p, to get things started.
  • We talked about undef-aware equality operators.…
• Posted This week in PSC (167) | 2024-11-07 to Perl Steering Council

  The three of us attended another long meeting:

  • We continued refining our plan for TLS in core. We will collect feedback on its feasibility from the maintainers of the relevant modules.
  • We reviewed the status of putting the apostrophe package separator behind a feature and ap…
• Posted This week in PSC (166) | 2024-10-31 to Perl Steering Council

  We were joined by Leon Timmermans and Tim Legge to discuss plans for TLS support in core.

  • We talked about our inadequate handling of point releases and especially security releases. In the past this was handled on individual initiative. We need to institutionalize at least some of th…
• Posted This week in PSC (165) | 2024-10-25 to Perl Steering Council

  This week’s meeting was delayed by scheduling conflicts because we chose consistency and availability over partition tolerance. We spent the entire meeting working on the document we wanted to put together a month ago with our thoughts on the Perl version number, which we intend to publish…

• Posted This week in PSC (164) | 2024-10-17 to Perl Steering Council

  This week, we talked about some recent (and less recent) p5p threads:

  • We discussed the sort thread briefly. We are waiting to see where it goes.
  • We talked again about TLS in core, and reviewed a document from the CPAN Security Group. We want to talk about this more in depth …
• Posted This week in PSC (163) | 2024-10-10 to Perl Steering Council

  We had a guest this week: Olaf Alders.

  • We exchanged Perl (re)branding ideas with Olaf. We will be keeping in touch on that front.
  • We discussed the feedback on feature-guarding and unbundling apostrophe. We came up with a strategy to propose that we think should work, which w…
• Posted This week in PSC (162) | 2024-10-03 to Perl Steering Council

  Everyone was present this week.

  • We devised a strategy to deal with smartmatch, starting with reverting its removal. A separate email with details will follow.
  • We spent too much time talking about putting the apostrophe package separator behind a feature. That too will be out…
• Posted This week in PSC (161) | 2024-09-27 to Perl Steering Council

  We were all present this week:

  • We rehashed the Perl version number discussion from last meeting now that we are all present. We will put together a document with our thoughts on this.
  • We will create a GitHub issue to make apostrophe removal feature-guarded.
  • Smartmat…
• Posted This week in PSC (160) | 2024-09-12 to Perl Steering Council

  Just Aristotle and Graham.

  The notes from this meeting were lost, but have been reconstructed from memory.

  • We had a discussion about what future versioning (Perl 7) should look like.
  • Discussed if we will need to make changes to apostrophe as package separator, and sm…
• Posted This week in PSC (159) | 2024-09-05 to Perl Steering Council

  All present, and this time the meeting actually ended on time.

  • We discussed the situation with the apostrophe package separator removal. We continue to keep an eye on things but it now feels close to inevitable that we will use a feature to disable it conditionally.
  • We brief…
• Posted This week in PSC (158) | 2024-08-29 to Perl Steering Council

  Back from holidays all three of us were in.

  • We discussed the recently reported closure memory leak in 5.40, which existed in older perls and was fixed in a way that caused other breakage instead, and we agreed that if it isn’t fixable we need to address it by at least providing…
• Posted This week in PSC (157) | 2024-08-23 to Perl Steering Council

  Just Aristotle and Philippe this time (Graham chipped in on IRC):

  • we discussed the apostrophe situation: we will watch 5.41.3 break CPAN, and then evaluate the actual fallout. We like the idea of guarding this with a feature (which might need to be split in two, for the string interp…
• Posted This week in PSC (156) | 2024-08-15 to Perl Steering Council

  Just Graham and Aristotle this time.

  • Discussed some patches to include in a perl 5.38 or 5.40 point release.
  • We will be watching the fallout from the removal of apostrophe as package separator.
  • Discussed what could be done for lexical method calls.

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• Posted This week in PSC (155) | 2024-08-08 to Perl Steering Council

  Just Graham and Aristotle this time.

  • Discussed tracking perl authorized releasers updates and storing historical data
  • Dual-Life modules need some cleanup to get a more normal release process that can be done more regularly. Cleanup has been done on Storable.
  • Time::H…
• Posted This week in PSC (154) | 2024-08-01 to Perl Steering Council

  This week, the whole PSC was in attendance.

  We merged HTTP-Tiny#6, and then discussed a number of topics:

  • some improvements on the process for releasing blead-upstream dual-life modules are needed
  • …
• Posted This week in PSC (153) | 2024-07-25 to Perl Steering Council

  After over a month without a PSC meeting, this was the first meeting of

  • welcomed Aristotle, and said goodbye to Paul
  • discussed the current projects in flight, the PPC process and the onboarding tasks (preparing for next year already!)
  • …

• Posted This week in PSC (152) | 2024-06-20 to Perl Steering Council

  Just Graham and Philippe this time.

  We talked about HTTPS in core, and some ideas about it, while the CPAN Security Group is preparing some proposals. Today was the deadline for releasing 5.41.1, but we don’t have volunteers yet, so Graham said he would do it sometime soon.

  W…

• Posted This week in PSC (151) | 2024-06-13 to Perl Steering Council

  Graham and Philippe met briefly today.

  Now that Perl 5.40 is out, and the nomination process for the next PSC is underway, there wasn’t much to discuss, so we cut the meeting short.…

• Posted This week in PSC (150) | 2024-06-06 to Perl Steering Council

  The three of us were there, and our discussion covered:

  • 5.40.0 has no more blocking bugs 🎉
  • It should be released by the end of the week
  • PPC0021 progress continues with Paul and Veesh discussing debugging and development
  • The maintainer of ="https:/…
• Posted This week in PSC (149) | 2024-05-30 to Perl Steering Council

  This week it was just Paul and Philippe; we discussed the final changes for the upcoming RC2 and stable release, and marked some issues/PR as release blockers.

  Graham expects to release 5.40-RC2 before the week-end.

• Posted This week in PSC (148) | 2024-05-16 to Perl Steering Council

  In anticipation for the stable release, we:

  • revived the “HTTPS out-of-the-box” project: the CPAN Security Group committed to help us select a workable solution, with a goal of implementing it in time for Perl 5.42
  • discussed the minutiae of the next stable release…
• Posted This week in PSC (147) | 2024-05-09 to Perl Steering Council

  Just Graham and Paul

  • Reviewed the release-blockers label. Only two left, one is a documentation fix (PR22055)
  • Reviewed another documentation PR that should go in for 5.40 (PR22200)

  Aside from that, things are looking good for making a 5.40 release at the usual…

• Posted This week in PSC (146) | 2024-05-02 to Perl Steering Council

  We were back from the PTS in Lisbon, and had a shorter meeting than usual, during which we mostly discussed the last remaining release blockers for 5.40.

• Posted This week in PSC (145) | 2024-05-25 to Perl Steering Council

  This meeting was done in person at the Perl Toolchain Summit 2024.

  • Reviewed game plan for (hopefully) last development release, to be done tomorrow, as well as the stable v5.40 release.
  • Reviewed recent issues and PRs to possibly address before next releases.
  • Reviewe…
• Posted This week in PSC (144) | 2024-04-11 to Perl Steering Council

  The three of us met, and:

  • merged the deëxperiment PR
  • agreed we should additionally discuss if the now-stable features (try, extra_paired_delimiters) should be included in the :5.40 feature bundle
  • rep…
• Posted This week in PSC (143) | 2024-04-04 to Perl Steering Council
  • Reviewed the new bugs since last review. One new potential blocker - 22121
  • Reviewed a first draft of a “Perl Roadmap” p…
• Posted This week in PSC (142) | 2024-03-28 to Perl Steering Council

  • Reviewed the list of ongoing experiments in perlexperiment.pod …

• Posted This week in PSC (141) | 2024-03-21 to Perl Steering Council

  This week, we:

  • Talked about some ideas for discussion at the upcoming PTS
  • Discussed the current blocked state of bleadperl following the 5.39.9 release and how to unblock it
  • Finished reviewing the release blocker bugs
  • Discussed how MetaCPAN should better ha…
• Posted This week in PSC (140) | 2024-03-14 to Perl Steering Council

  This week, we discussed:

  • Further look down open bugs to tag some as being release-blocker
  • Do we want to revert PR21915? - discussed in its own email thread
  • Thought of a couple of issues to discuss with the wider group at the upcoming PTS
    • How to handle “im…
• Posted This week in PSC (139) | 2024-03-07 to Perl Steering Council

  Just Paul and Philippe this week:

  • Paul volunteers to do the 5.39.9 release. We still need people for .10 and 5.40. The .10 release will be timed around PTS - so maybe we could do something “live” at the summit?
  • Mailing list was otherwise quiet so there weren̵…

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