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  • Posted This week in PSC (196) | 2025-06-19 to Perl Steering Council

    Graham couldn’t make it, so only Aristotle and Philippe this week.

    • We discussed the structure of the feature.pm documentation and how unfeatures should be covered. Philippe has provided a first patch which extends the description of each unfeature with a note stating from which fea…
  • Posted This week in PSC (195) | 2025-06-12 to Perl Steering Council

    All three of us attended.

    • Release blocker triage yielded no new blockers. We followed up on the issues we were already tracking.
    • The security release made some progress this week, but has been held up by the lack of a perldelta entry.

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  • Posted This week in PSC (194) | 2025-06-06 to Perl Steering Council

    All three of us attended.

    • Release blocker triage continues. Several more blockers have been resolved. We identified no blockers among new tickets but did consider #23346 and may ship it even if we do not consider it a blocker.
  • Posted This week in PSC (193) | 2025-05-29 to Perl Steering Council

    Just Aristotle and Graham this week.

    • This week CVE-2025-40909 was assigned, for an issue we were already tracking (GH …
  • Posted This week in PSC (192) | 2025-05-22 to Perl Steering Council

    All three of us attended.

    • We discussed the situation with readline and the filehandle error flag once again, starting over by revisiting the basic premise of the error flag. We think we now have a better understanding the overall situation, and this l…
  • Posted This week in PSC (191) | 2025-05-15 to Perl Steering Council

    We were all present.

    • The status of smartmatch came up. It is in a weird position where it used to be part of the language, then was retroactively declared an experiment, then deprecated and slated for removal, and now it’s no longer being removed – in fact we’ve added a feature…
  • Posted This week in PSC (190) | 2025-05-09 to Perl Steering Council

    A meeting with full attendance.

    • We caught up with new issues and pull requests without finding any new release blockers.
    • We went over the state of the perldeprecation and perlexperiment POD pages. We found that perlexperiment does not yet reflect the change in direction rega…
  • Posted This week in PSC (189) | 2025-05-01 to Perl Steering Council

    This extended meeting took place between the three of us in person over several days at the PTS 2025 in the beautiful city of Leipzig.

    • Release blocker triage continued, across two days. First we caught up with a dozen of new issues and pull requests, of which we identified on…

  • Posted This week in PSC (188) | 2025-04-24 to Perl Steering Council

    All of us showed up for a long meeting of identifying release blockers. First we went over the issues and PRs submitted since last week, none of which turned out to be new potential blockers. Then we examined all of the issues and PRs of interest we had previously identified. We applied the…

  • Posted This week in PSC (187) | 2025-04-17 to Perl Steering Council

    We were all present.

    • CVE-2024-56406 is published and has been addressed by new point releases. Please upgrade or patch your perl promptly if affected. We thank Steve Hay, Andreas König and Stig Palmquist for doing the heavy lifting, as well as Nathan Mills for discovering the pro…

  • Posted This week in PSC (186) | 2025-04-10 to Perl Steering Council

    Lots has been going on. All of us showed up, though Aristotle had to join late and Philippe had to leave early, so the meeting was short but productive:

    • We continued with the potential release blocker issue review and finished going over all 49 issues remaining at this time, of which…
  • Posted This week in PSC (185) | 2025-04-03 to Perl Steering Council

    The three of us attended.

    • Preparations for the point release are now in full swing.
    • In relation to that, we ran into infrastructure permissions discrepancies that have cropped up due to an absence of onboarding/offboarding procedures. We need to address both the immediate an…
  • Posted This week in PSC (184) | 2025-03-27 to Perl Steering Council

    All three were present.

    • We went over developments on the point release front. Things are now finally moving, if slowly.
    • We discussed some internal quality-of-life improvements to the PSC meeting workflow.
    • We briefly reflected on our work as the PSC given our various…
  • Posted This week in PSC (183) | 2025-03-20 to Perl Steering Council

    We didn’t have a meeting last week. This week, everyone was here.

    • We briefly talked about builtin. We think a numify function is quite necessary.
    • We started reviewing release blockers for v5.42.
  • Posted This week in PSC (182) | 2025-03-06 to Perl Steering Council

    All three of us attended, but none of us had the time for significant discussion, so we decided to reclaim the time and make some progress on our various to-do list items.

    [P5P posting of this s…

  • Posted This week in PSC (181) | 2025-02-26 to Perl Steering Council

    All three of us attended. Other than administrivia we talked about formally documenting our supported platforms, and we intend to start a discussion on the mailing list about this soon. This is also a topic for the upcoming Perl Toolchain Summit.

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  • Posted This week in PSC (179) | 2025-02-14 to Perl Steering Council

    Back to the full roster, albeit with Philippe attending from on the road.

    We mainly went over the list of PPCs, with an eye toward the fact that this release cycle is coming to a close.

  • Posted This week in PSC (180) | 2025-02-20 to Perl Steering Council

    All three of us were present:

    • We agreed on not terrible feature names for PPC0027: keyword_any and keyword_all. These can now be merged.…
  • Posted This week in PSC (178) | 2025-02-06 to Perl Steering Council

    Only Philippe and Aristotle this time.

    We spent most of our time on the PPC process, and started by merging Dave Cross’s PR for a static PPC web site. Many thanks to Dave once again.

    We discussed revising the PPC process, and started by …

  • Posted This week in PSC (177) | 2025-01-23 to Perl Steering Council

    Back to the full roster.

    • We talked again about Perl 42. We think it may already be too late for it in this cycle, so we want to make a thorough case for it by releasing a side tarball for the end of this cycle, and if no technical blocker is found, actually do the jump to 44 in the n…
  • Posted This week in PSC (176) | 2025-01-16 to Perl Steering Council

    Just Graham and Philippe this time.

    • We talked a bit about PPC 0025 (Perl version), but didn’t say anything new
    • Regarding PPC 0030 (new operators) vs PPC 0031 (flags on operators), we continue to think that flags on operators bring more confusion than value (PSC #168). …
  • Posted This week in PSC (175) | 2025-01-09 to Perl Steering Council

    Three of us again. Aristotle had limited time, Philippe and Graham stayed longer.

    • Steve Hay released the RCs for for 5.38.3 and 5.40.1. Thank you!
    • Philippe rebased his Perl 42 branch on top of blead after the release of v5.41.7. Things are on track to build a 41.8 testing ta…
  • Posted This week in PSC (174) | 2025-01-02 to Perl Steering Council

    Just Aristotle and Graham for our first meeting of the new year. Not much progress since the last one due to Christmas, New Year’s, sickness, and other personal circumstances. We discussed our framing of the version bump, the timeline for a decision, and the fact that constraints push us toward…

  • Posted This week in PSC (173) | 2024-12-20 to Perl Steering Council

    For the last meeting of the year we were all present again.

    • We have requested further input regarding our plan for TLS in core.

    • We picked the ball back up that we dropped regarding point releases. They should be coming soon.

    • We went over our finding…

  • Posted This week in PSC (172) | 2024-12-12 to Perl Steering Council

    All three of us attended.

    • We discussed the version 42 work on the psc/ppc0025 branch. We have an initial proof of concept that is almost good enough to test against CPAN in order to assess whether the plan is actually feasible and proceed from there. …
  • Posted This week in PSC (171) | 2024-12-05 to Perl Steering Council

    This week felt like a PSC reunion meeting. We extended invitations to join us for a discussion of the version change to a number of core contributors, and ended up joined by ex-PSC members Ricardo and Paul (Neil would have joined, but couldn’t make it).

    There is skepticism but no str…

  • Posted This week in PSC (170) | 2024-11-28 to Perl Steering Council

    All three of us attended.

    • We discussed the reactions to the Perl 42 proposal and how to reach consensus on it. We want to get a handle on the technical feasibility and also discuss more closely with the people who have doubts.
    • We reviewed Paul’s clarifications to PPC00…
  • Posted This week in PSC (169) | 2024-11-21 to Perl Steering Council

    Only Aristotle and Philippe this time.

    • We went through all the open PPC pull requests, with a goal of merging or closing as many of them as possible. The actual merging or closing will happen soon.
    • We merged PPC0025: “Perl 5 is Perl”.
    • We discussed s…
  • Posted This week in PSC (168) | 2024-11-15 to Perl Steering Council

    Another extended meeting, which everyone attended. Here’s a summary:

    • We want to get actual implementation of TLS in core underway. Paul volunteered for some of it. We’ll email our plan to p5p, to get things started.
    • We talked about undef-aware equality operators.…
  • Posted This week in PSC (167) | 2024-11-07 to Perl Steering Council

    The three of us attended another long meeting:

    • We continued refining our plan for TLS in core. We will collect feedback on its feasibility from the maintainers of the relevant modules.
    • We reviewed the status of putting the apostrophe package separator behind a feature and ap…
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