This week in PSC (209) | 2025-12-15

The stars aligned and all three of us managed to get together.

We mostly talked about PPCs, both in the general shape of the process, and specifically the latest proposal, PPC0034.

  • Given how the PPC process has worked out in practice, we discussed how much sense it makes and whether it solves a problem we actually have. We agreed that the steering council - and Perl overall - would still benefit from having some sort of declared process by which people can suggest and discuss new features, as separate from implementing them.
  • The process at the moment doesn’t align very well with existing practice; at the same time, existing practice is not particularly structured. Rather than trying to define a new process, we think it better to clarify the documented process to more obviously match what we actually do, and try to iterate that way.
  • PPC0034 is concerned with refalias parameters in signatures. Both the refalias and declared_refs features are still currently marked as experimental, though it is not immediately clear in their overview tickets why. We should clarify the status of these before we fully commit to PPC0034.
  • That aside, the overall document of PPC0034 seems good and we’re happy to merge it as a basis for ongoing experiment and a trial implementation.

[P5P posting of this summary]

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