This week in PSC (202) | 2025-09-25

Ongoing scheduling issues have meant we haven’t met all three together for a while, but today Paul and Leon found a time to discuss a few issues.

Dev point releases

5.43.3 just went out. .4 to .7 are accounted for, so we’ve a few months yet on that. Nothing for PSC to do for now.

OpenSSL progress

Leon has been building a replacement for Net::SSLeay - an XS wrapper of libssl. Eventual plan is that IO::Socket::SSL should be able to use that instead. Eventual intention is that it can be bundled with the actual core perl dist and get us ability to use https URLs from the in-core CPAN client directly.

We should have a technical meeting at some point to round up some of the interested parties. PSC’s involvement can just be keeping an eye on it, and seeing if it is on track to be included in (5.)44.

TODO: Plan a time and audience for said meeting.

Better categorization of core vs dual-life modules

Unary Operator


The unary + operator is one of the most commonly used operators in Perl. Below is a post detailing a recent situation where I encountered it:
https://theweeklychallenge.org/blog/unary-operator

Annual Russian Perl Conference 2025

The annual Perl-Conf.Ru/25 will take place in Moscow on September 27, 2025 — a special date marking the birthday of Perl's creator, Larry Wall!

The conference will bring together the Perl community to share experiences and discuss current trends in development. The program includes reports on modern tools and practical approaches to solving complex problems.

The talks will cover:

  1. Test2: life after Test::More
  2. Turbo Perl: batteries debugger included
  3. Writing typemap for passing structures to XS
  4. Perl & Postgres: the hard way, because it's easier

Registration and Details: https://perl-conf.ru/25

A Quiz about Operator Priorities

#!/usr/bin/perl

use 5.36.0;

# ------------------------------------------------

say 'Does priority say we print 2b or ! 2b?';

my($action_types) = qr/PAYMENT|SETTLEMENT|TRANSFER/o;

say "Action types: $action_types";

for my $action (qw/PAYMENT REFUND/)
{
say "Action: $action";
say "Case: 1. $action (1a): ", $action =~ $action_types ? 'Present' : 'Absent';
say "Case: 2. $action (2a): ", "$action (2b): " . $action =~ $action_types ? 'Present' : 'Absent';
say "Case: 3. $action (3a): ", "$action (3b): " . ($action =~ $action_types) ? 'Present' : 'Absent';
say "Case: 4. $action (4a): ", "$action (4b): " . ( ($action =~ $action_types) ? 'Present' : 'Absent');
say "Case: 5. $action (5a): " . ($action =~ /$action_types/ ? 'Present' : 'Absent');
say '';
}

Vibe coding a Perl interface to a foreign library - Part 3

After a very long hiatus due to the triplet of work-vacation-work, we return to Part 3 of my AI assisted coding of a Perl interface to a foreign library.
I will not repeat the post on my Github pages Github pages, or the documentation of my MetaCPAN package Bit::Set which features a "vibecoding" section.
However, I would like to share the take home points from my exercise:

  • I found the agentic bots to not be very helpful, as they entered these long repetitive and useless reflections without being able to fix the problems they identified when the build of `Bit::Set` failed.
  • The "Ask" mode chatbots could generate lots of code, but with subtle mistakes.
  • Success with porting test suites from one language to the other was highly variable, ranging from near perfect to outright refusal to execute a difficult task.
  • On the other hand, the chatbot was excellent as an auto-complete, often helping me finish the structure of the POD and putting together the scaffold to fill things in.

Design Pattern Factory


Design Pattern Factory: Moo vs experimental class feature.
Please check out the link for more information:
https://theweeklychallenge.org/blog/design-pattern-factory

This week in PSC (201) | 2025-09-01

All three of us attended, but with Aristotle and Paul short on time. So this was a short meeting. We discussed some administrivia and reviewed the left-over todo list from the previous PSC.

[P5P posting of this summary]

Call for Papers & Participation - Perl Community Conference, Winter 2025

We are moving full steam ahead. The Journals are not so easy to put out 2x a year we are finding, but the editing process for Issue #2 is moving ahead nonetheless. We are now collecting papers for inclusion for Issue #3. But our hybrid conferences are proving to be very successful endeavors. We hope you will consider submitting a Science Track paper or regular Perl talk to this 2 day hybrid conference in sunny ole Austin, TX, USA.

See more:

https://science.perlcommunity.org/spj/announcement/view/9

Updated wikis: Perl, Mojolicious, CSS and JS, Debian and Digital Security

Get them at the usual place...

Caching using CHI


Caching using CHI.
Please check out the link for more information:
https://theweeklychallenge.org/blog/caching-using-chi

Finally fixed a two-decade bug in my File::Finder CPAN module

Twenty years is a long time in the world of software. That's how long it's been since I last updated my Perl module, File::Finder. But today, thanks to a bug report from a dedicated user, I'm excited to announce the release of version 1.0.0!

For those who don't know, File::Finder is a handy little module that gives you the power of the find command right in your Perl code. It turns out that it wasn't playing nicely with Windows, and it was high time to fix that.

It's a surreal and wonderful feeling to revisit code you wrote two decades ago and find that it's still useful to people. It's a testament to the power and longevity of Perl and the open-source community.

A big thank you to the user who took the time to report the bug and help me bring this module into the modern era. It's moments like these that make you appreciate the collaborative spirit of software development.

You can find the new, Windows-friendly version of File::Finder on CPAN.

#Perl #CPAN #SoftwareDevelopment #LegacyCode #OpenSource #ThrowbackThursday

[this message written with the assistance of Gemini CLI inside VSCode]

new GTC Architecture

Graphic::Toolkit::Color 1.9 brought several big new features which I will write about when 2.0 comes out - just to sum up what changed since 1.0. This time I want to describe the internal changes, since this release completed an in-depth rewrite. So this will be about software engineering, architecture and coding style. TLDR: simple, clear, DDD, OO by composition and arg and a color space DSL!

Benchmark::MCE on CPAN

I recently refactored the multi-core benchmarking framework I've been using for my Perl CPU benchmark suite (Benchmark::DKbench) and released it as a separate module: Benchmark::MCE.

Why spin it out? Because the harness can do more: it can be used to write custom benchmark suites of any type, generate massively parallel workloads for stress testing, or run throughput benchmarks against services and APIs.

The exact scenario that prompted me was a comparison of Cloud SQL database instances. We wanted to see how a 16-CPU Enterprise Plus instance would compare to a 24-CPU Enterprise instance under heavy load. One way to do that is to write one or more functions that run randomized, typical/heavy queries (e.g. random searches for SpareRoom ads in our case), then use Benchmark::MCE to time them running on dozens of parallel MCE workers to simulate high load:

CVE-2025-40927


Re-creating the vulnerability CVE-2025-40927 in an isolated docker container. Please check out the link for more information:
https://theweeklychallenge.org/blog/cve-2025-40927

This week in PSC (200) | 2025-08-27

The transition meeting to the new PSC proved a bit tricky to schedule to get everyone from both the old and new PSC in attendance, but eventually we succeeded: Aristotle, Graham, Leon, Paul, and Philippe all participated.

  • We discussed our structure for PSC meetings and our learnings about it from last cycle. We briefly introduced Leon to it and went over the onboarding checklist.
  • We discussed roadmap items from the last cycle that did not get done, such as getting TLS in core. No decisions were taken as they will be for the new PSC to make.

[P5P posting of this summary]

PCC Videos Now Being Released

The 2024 Perl Community Conference videos are being sent out now. To get the early access, join our announcement-only email list at https://perlcommunity.org/science/#mailing_list.

You may also join the Perl Programmers Facebook Group, or if you're a member go there. A few days after the latest videos are sent to our exclusive mailing list, they will get set to the FB group.

Finally, you may monitor our Perl Community Subreddit, which will be the last place they are officially released to the public. We just dropped batch #2. We have 2 more batches for the 2024 PCC. Then we'll be doing it all over again for the 2025 Summer PCC we just had in July.

And if you see anyone else releasing them on any other platforms, note this is currently unauthorized!

Cheers, Brett Estrade (OODLER)

Sydney August Meeting!

Thanks again to Organic Trader for hosting and providing a venue!

Meeting is as follows...

Speaker:
Stuart Cooper

Time and Date:
6:30-9pm
Wednesday 20th August 2025

Venue:
Organic Trader Pty Ltd
Level 1
Unit 13/809-821 Botany Rd
Rosebery NSW 2018

Getting there:
Walking from either Mascot or Green Square station seems to be roughly the same distance.

Please also join the Sydney PM email list (low volume), Australia Perl on FB, or you can point your browser at the Sydney PM website for the same links in longer form.

Caching using Memcached


Caching in Perl using memcached.
Please check out the link for more information:
https://theweeklychallenge.org/blog/caching-using-memcached

This week in PSC (199) | 2025-08-07

Only Graham and Philippe attended. We coordinated with Aristotle via chat.

We only met to discuss the mailing-list moderation and immediate actions
(which resolved to sending an email to them moderators, and another one
to the list).

We also talked about moderation in general, and got some ideas to discuss
with the next PSC.

[P5P posting of this summary]

Is it still worth adding installation instructions to a distribution?

I have decided to write a successor to Pod::Readme that works as a Dist::Zilla plugin that plays well with Pod::Weaver.

The idea for Pod::Readme is that a README file that is simply a version of the module documentation isn't all that useful. It often lacks important details like the prerequisites or installation instructions, and it includes a lot of unnecessary details about functions and methods.

A README file should be short and sweet: a synopsis and description, installation instructions and requirements, links to issue trackers, source repos and author/copyright info.

As I am rewriting this, I am wondering if the installation instructions are necessary now?

Many distributions have a generic INSTALL file, generally created by something like Dist::Zilla::Plugin::InstallGuide.

Before Dist::Zilla was as widely used, another option was to add installation instructions to the README file, usually with a few boilerplate along the lines of

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