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Mithaldu

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  • About: Not writing much, but often found pawing at CPAN with other #perl-cats
  • Commented on Perl and self flagellation...
    My standard policy is to treat people with a base level of respect and adjust it by how they behave themselves. You can see an example of how i deal with people who actually make an effort to learn here:...
  • Commented on Perl and self flagellation...
    PS: Did you read the pdf i linked earlier? (Y/n)...
  • Commented on Perl and self flagellation...
    When people say "Moose" they mean the syntax. Personally i never actually use Moose.pm and port from Moose.pm to Moo whenever i can. Now, to take your little car analogy there: Moose is a combat jet Moo is a VW...
  • Commented on Perl and self flagellation...
    > I don't necessarily see how the framework makes reading the code any easier I sincerely hope you're the kind of person who, when they say this, actually have an interest in learning so they can see it; as opposed...
  • Commented on Perl and self flagellation...
    > Moo > Object::InsideOut You seem to be massively conflating concepts here. You seem to think that Object::InsideOut is the same thing as Moo, and because you've had a bad experience with one, you project that on the other. Instead...
  • Commented on Announcing Perl::Critic::Policy::Variables::ProhibitUnusedVarsStricter
    > This has since been retracted warnings::unused seems to be doing fine: https://metacpan.org/module/GFUJI/warnings-unused-0.06/lib/warnings/unused.pm...
  • Commented on If there's a shortage of programmers, why aren't wages up?
    Alright, that makes sense, your target demographics is people who actually do care more about the place. Another thing, i can likely add two more companies to those in Hannover, if you wish you can poke me anytime on IRC...
  • Commented on If there's a shortage of programmers, why aren't wages up?
    nrr just pointed this out to me: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=5803800 And seeing that i have to point out a massive mistake i see recruiters make all the time: Talk about the area, but not about the job. What perl versions are in...
  • Commented on On the awesomeness of the Perl community
    Are you saying "thank you"? It seems your civility-free zone was accidentally contaminated with some civility!...
  • Commented on Why I joined Propaganda.pm
    I am slightly interested in it too, but the lack of an IRC channel means that there's very little chance of useful communication for me....
  • Commented on Perl QA Hackathon 2013 in Lancaster - notes by Wendy (2)
    > Comment from online: "deleting CPAN distributions that are older than 5 years" is a shockingly horrible idea. I hope it was rejected at the meeting. I do think it is not about deleting distributions, but about deleting uploads that...
  • Commented on Slideshare? Really?
    Use private mode in your browser, make a fake account, and download the pdf directly....
  • Commented on What about a Perl example?
    The only correct thing to do here is to contact the people, ask why they don't have one public (sometimes they have it, just not published) and offer to do it for them....
  • Commented on OI::M::Finally({IO::All})
    It doesn't look like operator overloading will yield array output, but instead of slurp, all will be a bit nicer. :)...
  • Commented on Idea: perl community homepage
    Your current talks section links to slideshare mostly, and i find that the people who care about simple talk slides are usually an entirely different set than those who care about videos. Thus, it'd probably help to have separate sections...
  • Commented on Idea: perl community homepage
    Looks good. Could also use a field for videos, and please link to http://perl-tutorial.org/ prominently in your doc/tutorial section. :)...
  • Commented on App::Midgen what is it?
    Why did you not use previous art, like that used in Dist::Zilla? https://metacpan.org/module/Perl::PrereqScanner Do we really need another implementation that will require time to work out all the kinks and edge cases, instead of improving existing ones?...
  • Commented on Please build this for me, yesterday, also!
    According to daxim in #perl this already exists: http://p3rl.org/Test::TCP#empty_port...
  • Commented on Names and Numbers, Brand and Identity
    I've been asked before in job interviews by CTOs and assorted people about my plans to learn Perl 6. In one case because they believed Perl 5 to be completely obsolete and expected Perl 6 to be ready soon, and...
  • Commented on About the Grants Committee
    I would also like to note: It is probably going to be more productive to talk about how much grant money is available (perhaps do so in terms of total grants that could be taken), instead of talking about how...
  • Commented on About the Grants Committee
    My perspective: I've heard mention of grants before. I envisioned them as projects like Nicholas Clark or other full-time p5p hackers have. Something that takes considerable expertise and time to complete and which requires people to be able to not...
  • Commented on Economics 101
    I was also curious why the person omitted CGI and scripts Maybe because he thinks they're not modern anymore, or because the other languages can't compete as well on those grounds. And what's ETL? Extract, Transform, Load? If so,...
  • Commented on Economics 101
    Actually, to make it more clear: http://jobs.perl.org/job/16520 That is one of the jobs cut out of the graph by removing "cgi". I think it doesn't need to be demonstrated more clearly how bogus and arbitrary the graph is....
  • Commented on Economics 101
    Nice explanation of a complex concept, thank you. :) Also, i have to say that the indeed graph annoys me because of the arbitrary restrcictions. I can understand cutting out sysadmin jobs because they usually just spam languages for the...
  • Commented on AnyEvent::ForkManager stuck on Strawberry but not on ActivePerl?
    Can you link to some of these libc reports? Maintainership of Strawberry changed in recent months and it's possible kmx is not even aware of them....
  • Commented on AnyEvent::ForkManager stuck on Strawberry but not on ActivePerl?
    That is exactly Capture::Tiny, but i couldn't imagine why it hangs. I've never observed it doing that. (In case you're curious, that program does multiplexing of STDOUT/ERR to multiple sources, so tee works on windows as well.)...
  • Commented on AnyEvent::ForkManager stuck on Strawberry but not on ActivePerl?
    I think you’d need to have an expectation that the implementation should work on Windows and have it working on either ActivePerl or Strawberry before considering differences between the two distribution. I disagree. If the author knows that a distribution...
  • Commented on AnyEvent::ForkManager stuck on Strawberry but not on ActivePerl?
    The reports by David Solimano and Matt Perry both are Strawberry Perls. I would suggest asking them if they went into task manager and killed perl processes manually. Also note this line in my run of those tests: CPAN::Reporter: test...
  • Commented on How to write a test description
    This is very well written and hits an important peeve i've encountered often in the past and which i've done wrong often as well. (Until i realized what was annoying me and started fixing it in myself.) Thank you. :)...
  • Commented on 13% of CPAN distributions don't have a test report on Windows
    Oh, ffs, blogs.perl.org, don't interpret my comment as HTML. The first sentence in the previous post ends with me pointing out that my smoker has actually run through CPAN multiple times now without getting stuck and is displaying this right...
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  • chen.yack commented on Perl and self flagellation...

    That's it !

  • Dave Cross commented on Perl and self flagellation...

    I have no problem at all with people using "non-Modern" Perl. If that's how you want to write your code, then that's fine, of course.

    What I object to is people saying that using Modern Perl tools somehow makes their code harder to understand, when the whole thrust of the Modern Perl movement[1] is the complete opposite.

    [1] Insofar as an unconnected group of projects can be called a "movement".

  • paul.seamons commented on Perl and self flagellation...

    I agree 100% with rlauer and Dave Shultz. The problems "modern" perl solves are interesting problems, but they are academic problems. They are not the problems I have seen actually be relevant in any of my own business scopes which I have been involved in during my short 16 years of Perl experience.

    As I see it, the large "Modern Perl" tools that you are complaining about pretty much all exist to make code easier to understand and maintain than older Perl code.
    I think you are correct in assessing why they exist. However just because they set out with the goa…
  • David Shultz commented on Perl and self flagellation...

    That is very sad indeed, you seem to have had a different view back in 2011 when responding to a post by chromatic about civility (or a lack there of) in the Perl community. I encourage you to come back to the fold of treating people with respect regardless of their level of "desire to learn", it seems to me deciding how to treat someone else based on the desire to learn might say more about you then then other person.

  • David Shultz commented on Perl and self flagellation...

    Very well spoken, thank you for your input.

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